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ELLEN G. WHITE, THE PROPHETESS OF THE SDA MEMBERS OR MARY, THE MOTHER OF JESUS?

The Seventh Day Adventist Members believe in Ellen G White while the Roman Catholic Church worshipers believe in Mary, the Mother of Jesus.

Now, Who should be respected more?

Mary, the mother of Jesus or Ellen G.White the writer of over 66 Christian books most used by SDAs?
Please have your say!

PICTURE: Elen G White for SDA and Mary the Mother of Jesus for Catholics

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  1. Wrong notions all together. The SDA doesn’t believe Mrs. White. We believe in what she wrote because it conforms with the Bible. Coating what is written doesn’t mean making the writer a god. It means acknowledging in appreciation to what is written.

    • On the contrary if u have to confess before being baptised then it’s a great deal. In fact Adventists must swear to accept Ellen White as an inspired prophet at their baptism or they can’t even become a member of the Seventh-day Adventist church! And u want to claim u don’t worship her? Please

    • I insist that we believe in what she has written all because they reflect what is written in the Bible. I challenge you to quart a an Adventist Book that is saying ‘We Adventists believe in Ellen White’. There is a difference between believing in someone and believing in what someone has done. We believe in the Writings of EG White because they direct us to the word of God. We don’t warship her and even mention her in our prayers. She is dead and the dead know nothing. When you warship something it means you believe it is existing. There is no problem in trusting what someone has done. Otherwise arguments for or against Ellen White have nothing to do with one’ s salvation. The most important issue for Christians is to allow Jesus to control our lives and have our names written in the Book of life.

      • I think if you want to talk about plagiarism,if she indeed plagiarized anything…then she must have plagiarized the writtings of th Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints also known as Mormons.They more popular in the United States of America..Ellen G White once belonged to Church of Jesus of Latter Day Saints in its earlier days.She fell out with them after disagreements with the likes of Prophet Joseph Smith about I think something to do with a woman could not be a Prophet or something like that…she went on to start S.D.A so she could be a Prophet.Most of the writings and teachings are similar to those of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.The S D A are a replica of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.Most SDAs don’t know this and they would argue teribly.But the truth is that Ellen G White was a Mormon.One thing about the Mormons is that they really good at teachings and wrritings.

    • When you talk without examples, that is hypothetical. Plagiarism, who has ever complained of his publications being plagiarized? Give examples to show scholarly work. Without examples it becomes village Theology. EGW stressed much on the Ten Commandments, especially the Sabbath referred to by other Protestant Churches as Jewish Sabbath, but the Bible in Exodus 20 says the Sabbath of the Lord. If that is plagiarism, then it is good plagiarize the Word of God as it is and warn the people.

  2. The Bible is the only constitution ratified by God almighty for his people the isrealites . If u r an Israelite repent and ask God for mercy and get back to true worship, not this thing of Mary or g white

  3. Issues of faith will always bring controversies. So it is important that each person or group of people believe what they think is right and respect the other’s views. Each group asked will justify why it accepts/believes in whatever it is it believes in.
    There are many doctrinal differences among Christian Churches, hence the resultant denominations.
    Let’s try to move away from Christian differences and broaden the comparison to Religions; Buddhists, Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Traditionalists, etc. Who’s better?
    In my opinion, the best is to let God be the judge. After all, don’t we just choose what to believe in? One can choose to switch churches like T-shirts, or switch religions as they wish.

    • There’s only one Bible…..so there should be only one truth. All the confusion in Christianity is self inflicted…because we CHOOSE ignorance and turn away our ears from hearing from the truth….

      Unbiblical and foundationless doctrines like rapture, purgatory, eternal hell fire, prosperity gospel, saved by grace in sin, immortality of the soul are some of them that confuse Christianity.

      The Bible is not confused, Christians are CONFUSED!

    • #Shriner, no matter what we say, people will always have their own interpretations. Remember that the Bible itself has stories of people disobeying God, including when there were only two people. And before that an angel Lucifer, had already rebelled. It’s the reason I am saying let God be the judge. All Christians use the same Bible, even though of late some unscrupulous people have been twisting the word through various translations and or revisions. I was shocked to learn that in Zambia alone, there are more than 70 000 registered churches. This tells the story. All these people are aware of the Biblical teachings.

  4. People both catholics and SDA believe in these two very important women. Catholics Mary as the mother of Jesus and SDA ‘s as their prophet but I believe in Jesus and it’s all that matters.

  5. SDA MEMBERS DON’T BELIEVE IN ELLEN G WHITE BUT BELIEVE IN HER WRITINGS AS THEY WERE INSPIRED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT WHICH IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY. CATHOLICS PRAY THROUGH MARY SO THE COMPARISON OF SAYING SDA BELIEVE IN ELLEN G WHITE IS FECK.

    • You call these contradictions inspired by the the holy spirit? Was the plan of salvation made after the fall?

      EGW: YES “The kingdom of grace was instituted immediately after the fall of man, when a plan was devised for the redemption of the guilty race” (Great Controversy, p. 347).

      BIBLE: NO 1 Pet 1:18 – 19 (NIV) 18For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, 19but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect.

      BIBLE: NO Eph 1:4 (NIV) 4For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight.

      Note: The Gospel of salvation through grace by faith in Jesus Christ was already in existence before the creation of this world. EGW contradicts the Bible by claiming the plan of salvation was devised after the fall of Adam and Eve.

      2. Was Adam with Eve when she was tempted in the garden?

      EGW: NO “The angels had cautioned Eve to beware of separating herself from her husband while occupied in their daily labor in the garden; with him she would be in less temptation than if she were alone. But absorbed in her pleasing task, she unconsciously wandered from his side. On perceiving that she was alone, she felt an apprehension of danger. … She soon found herself gazing with mingled curiosity and admiration upon the forbidden tree” (Patriarchs and Prophets, pp. 53, 54).

      BIBLE: YES Gen 3:6 (NIV) 6When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.

      3. Was Adam deceived by Satan?

      EGW: YES “Satan, who is the father of lies, deceived Adam in a similar way, telling him that he need not obey God, that he would not die if he transgressed the law” (Evangelism, p. 598).

      BIBLE: NO 1 Tim 2:14 (NIV) 14And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.

      Note: Who showed E. G. White that Satan deceived Adam, when the Bible says Adam was not deceived? So who is deceiving us?

      4. Who spoke to Cain?

      EGW: ANGEL “Through an angel messenger the divine warning was conveyed: ‘If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted?'” (Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 74).

      BIBLE: Gen 4:6 – 7, (NIV) 6Then the LORD said to Cain, “Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? 7If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must master it.”

      Note: It is the Lord speaking to Cain in Gen 4: 6, 7, 10, 13, 15-16 not an angel messenger. SDAs often try to reconcile this contradiction by claiming the Lord spoke to Cain through an angel. If so, then why didn’t the Bible tell us the truth? When Moses wrote this account, why didn’t God tell Moses He spoke to Cain through an angel? Why would our omniscient God let Moses write down the wrong thing? And, if EGW is right, then Jesus was wrong when He said in John 17:17, “Your word is truth.” For EGW to be right, the Bible, Moses, and Jesus Christ all have to be wrong!

      5. Did pre-flood humans mate with animals and give birth to new sub-human species and races?

      EGW: YES “But if there was one sin above another which called for the destruction of the race by the flood, it was the base crime of amalgamation of man and beast which defaced the image of God, and caused confusion everywhere” (Spiritual Gifts, vol. 3, p. 64).

      EGW: YES “Every species of animal which God had created were preserved in the ark. The confused species which God did not create, which were the result of amalgamation, were destroyed by the flood. Since the flood there has been amalgamation of man and beast, as may be seen in the almost endless varieties of species of animals, and in certain races of men” (Spiritual Gifts, vol. 3, p. 75).

      BIBLE: NO Gen 1:24 – 25 (NIV) 24And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

      Note: Five times in these two verses God states that animals can only reproduce according “to their own kinds.” Horses cannot mate with birds and produce offspring — neither can humans mate with monkeys and produce offspring. Even SDA scientists and the Ellen White Estate admit EGW was simply wrong.

      6. Did god or an angel shut the door of Noah’s ark?

      EGW: ANGEL “An angel is seen by the scoffing multitude descending from heaven clothed with brightness like the lightning. He closes that massive outer door, and takes his course upward to heaven again” (Spiritual Gifts, vol. 3, p. 68, written in 1864).

      EGW: GOD “… God had shut it, and God alone could open it” (Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 98, written in 1890).

      BIBLE: GOD Gen 7:16 (NIV) 16The animals going in were male and female of every living thing, as God had commanded Noah. Then the LORD shut him in.

      Note: The Bible says the Lord shut Noah in, EGW disagreed in 1864 saying it was an angel who shut the door. Then twenty-six years later in 1890, she changed her mind and wrote that it really was God who shut the door. First she contradicted the Bible and then she contradicted herself. SDAs try to reconcile EGW with the Bible by saying, “Oh, God used an angel to shut the door.” If so, then why doesn’t the Bible tell us that? Why is it that none of the Bible prophets knew God “used an angel”? Why was this information only available to Christians through EGW? And why does her information contradict every one of the Bible writers? If the OT Bible record was wrong, then why did Jesus say the Bible is “truth” (John 17:17)? For EGW to be right, the Bible, Moses, Jesus and Ellen White herself have to be wrong!

    • Well Eldridge Mysterial Mumba I hear she was and apparently the only true prophetess according to SDA but since I base my understanding on the bible alone I believe there are still prophets of God today till the end of the age

    • you just want to bring confusions among the SDA family.Whether it was the angel who shut the door or God but the overall shutter was God. That part where you said Adam wasn’t deceived by the Devil it was Eve who was deceived like serious?Who deceived the woman who as a result deceived Adam? The answer is obvious so the overall deceiver is the Devil.I think your reasoning doesnt hold water and it’s so deceitful.
      Moreover,we don’t worship EGW like the catholics do to their Mary.

  6. puting the words together and make em sound so right doesn’t prove a point what you pipo are missing is thinkng you know better than the other we all have something to learn from each one of us so kip tour personal views away from the bible

  7. you are totally mad, who told you that ba SDA believe in E.G WHITE ? if you don’t have something to write better you just quiet than starting embarrassing some churches. you have no manners

    • It Is Gud 2 Educate Each Other On Spriritual Matters. May Be U Are Out Of The Trueth Then U Come 2 The True And Be Saved. Remember We Have One Church Ithe Bible. READ EPHESIANS 4; 4, MATHEWS 16:13-18, JESES CHRIST PROMISED 2 BUILD ONE CHURCH. AND THIS CHURCH STARTED ON THE DAY OF PENTECOST WHEN PETER PREACHED THE PEOPLE IN JERESALUM ABOUT 3000 WERE ADDED 2 THE CHURCH. THERE IS NO OTHER NAME GIVEN 2 SAVE US ONLY JESUS CHRIST. ACTS 4:12

  8. Its important to conduct a thorough research before u expose your ignorance on social media! SDA’s as far as I know don’t worship any human being…EGW wrote many books that many Christians refer to because they correlate with the word of God. SDAs only believe and worship God Almighty. End of debate

  9. Learn to post things you know unlike exposing your ignorance to the public,who told you that SDAs can be reduced to that level of worshiping a human being?we worship God Jehova in truth and spirit thats we end our prayers in the name of jesus not Ellen Gould White.Offcourse we believe in her writings as it makes us understand the difficult items in the bible better above all,her writings are bible based and inspired by God.Therefore,to state that we worship her is an abomination.

  10. In the first place the question is wrong? Both the SDA & the Catholics believe in Jesus neither in Mary or Hellen G. White. God used Mary or even White to have His Kingdom preached to the world through Jesus Christ.

  11. The best thing I will suggest you is to attend Sabbath School Lesson at least for 6 months then and ask your questions then you will conclude whether SDAs believe in E G White or or Jesus Christ the Lord. There are 28 Fundamental Believes for SDAs download them and read. God bless you

    • Robert most of your SDA doctrine comes from her. That makes her a key figure in your Church. Thats the reason you had to swear belief in her inspiration when getting baptised

    • Mr Robert if you are a real Adventist then you will know that EGW is not jst the author of spiritual books. Sit down with your Church leaders and ask them more about her. Also read the fundamental belief #18 of the SDA Church: “One of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy. This gift is an identifying mark of the remnant church and was manifested in the ministry of Ellen. G. White . As the Lord’s messenger, her writings are a continuing and authoritative source of truth which provide for the church comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction…”

      She is certainly much more than ” just an author” of spiritual books.

  12. Who is Mary or Ellen G White to be followed. We can only worship God from heaven our true creator and not Idols. The Bible in Revelation 14:12 talks of the patience of Saints Keeping the Commandment of God and the Faith of Jesus Christ. Not changed commandments coz Jesus never changed anything but fulfilled according to Mathew 5:17. The faith are testimonies of Christ talked about by Ellen G White. The testimonies help interpret the Bible. How does Mary come in, what other role other than the Mother. Is she a god, no but currently depicted an idol.

  13. Interesting!! I know little about the topic though. However, in all the arguments either for or against the assertion, the affected camps by implication are acknowledging that the 2 women are/were no ordinary persons. So am I right to conclude that the two are ‘honoured’ rather than ‘believed in’ by their respective followers? Is it an issue of semantics that is not sitting well with the affected camps? Is it even wrong to believe in the two in the first place? The assertion is provocative and unfortunately the camps seem to have fallen into the trap, it was deliberately set to pit the two camps against each other. Eish matters of faith!

  14. YOU ARE A BASTARD TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A PICTURE OF MARY,THE MOTHER OF GOD.MARY WAS CHOSEN BY GOD HIMSELF AS A CHANNEL THROUGH WHICH HE CAME TO EARTH TO SAVE HUMANITY.ELLEN.G.WHITE WAS DRIVEN BY HER OWN HUMAN INTELLIGENCY.IF YOU STUDY HISTORY,YOU WILL NOTICE THAT HER WRITTINGS CONTRIBUTED TO THE CONFUSION IN THE CHURCH AS THE BODY OF CHRIST TODAY.SHE CONTRIBUTED TO THE FRAGMENTATION OF THE UNITARY CHURCH.SHE MADE PIPO THINK THAT OUT OF THEIR OWN DEEDS,ACTIONS AND WISDOM-WHICH SHE THOUGHT WERE LACKING IN THE ONE CHURCH THEN,THE UNIVERSAL OR CATHOLIC CHURCH-THAT PIPO COULD REACH RIGHTEOUSNESS IN THE EYES OF GOD.AND YET GOD HIMSELF SAID IT WAS BY HIS GRACE,AND THAT NO ONE IS RIGHTEOUS IN THE EYES OF GOD BUT ONLY BY THE GRACE.GRACE BEING UNDESERVED FAVOUR.BY HER TEACHINGS THE CHURCH IS DIVIDED TODAY.IT IS SAD THAT IN HER LAST DAYS,EVEN THE PROTESTING CHURCHES FORMED OUT OF HER OWN WRITINGS,EXCOMMUNICATED HER DUE TO HER HAUGHTINESS-THINKING SHE KNEW IT ALL-NO ONE COULD TEACH HER.SHE DIED OUTSIDE ANY CHURCH.

  15. The bottom line is SDA cant do without Ellen White neither can Catholics do without Mary forget the semantics or the the sugar coating done by both churches they simply can’t exist without the 2 women.

  16. The problem is we like to be told, we don’t enjoy reading hence arguing from what we were told and not what we ourselves read. Read and have understanding. Mind you all other Bibles have verses removed except for the King James Bersion Bible. I have the evidence, READ DONT BE TOLD.

    • You are a typical indoctrinated SDA fanatic. U can still be saved even without the same verses u claim they have removed. Whatever that has been removed from the modern bibles isn’t enough to mislead people

  17. you should ask before you send it on air! my dearly friends sda only believe in jesus christ who is God EGW only comes in to explain more on what God said through his old prophets so never should you mislead people in such a manner .(i would advise you to read EGW’s books and you will.know what to ask in the name of creating a story on dn )

  18. Surely If U Believe What I Have Written Then U Have Believed Me Because What I Have Written Passes Through Me Even Thou Iam Not The Source. A Father Too Bears Children Even Tho The Placenta Is From A Mother

  19. Let us not put politics the churches of God no one believes in the human being but to the word of God .

    Jesus himself said he is the way ,the truth and the life no one shall go to thy kingdom of God except through him. So we believe in God and may God Forgiven you because you don’t know what you’re talking about.

  20. people,dont worry too much about who to worship.GOD,JESUS N HOLY SPIRIT are the right people to worship,read the bible correct,understand it good ,be faithful and keep the ten commandments well ,dont break any one of them ,by doing so ,your faith will serve u.

  21. SDAs have never mentioned Ellen G. White in their praised unlike the Catholic. Mary was just a vessel used to bring Jesus into this world as a human. There’s a difference between respect and worshipping. Reading Ellen’s books does not mean one is being followed like a saviour. And this is the first time am heading such an absurd statement. I am not SDA but mwayitaya bane. Look into your own issues and don’t justify them by digging wrong information about others.

    • It matters less that they don’t mention her name as often as Catholics do with Mary but don’t get misled, she is a core figure of Adventist faith and one must swear belief in her inspiration if they are to be baptised in the Church

    • Sandra check this SDA fundemental belief # 17: “The gift of Prophecy: One of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy. This gift is an identifying mark of the remnant church and was manifested in the ministry of Ellen G. White. As the Lord’s messenger, her writings are a continuing and authoritative source of truth which provide for the church comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction… Do you see that the Church believes that her writings are “inspired” and you must believe likewise as a member in the Church.

  22. The fact is that SDAs accept the writing of mrs white as such a person who was inspired by the holy spirit to bring to light what God has wanted his people to know. However, we acknowledge that mrs white did her part and died. We dont pray to her to have our sins forgiven because the only burden carrier of our sins is our lord Jesus Christ. Thus, we differ with our friends on the point of praying to marry so that she can ask her son in turn to have our sins forgiven. No human being of whatever make can ever take the position of forgiving sins, only God himself through his son Jesus Christ.

  23. I have debated this issue with many SDAs. The conclusions i came up with are these. 1) Even if they deny it, much of their doctrine is derived from EGW and not the Bible. 2) They defend EGW even where she contradicts the Bible. 3) Their teachings are not properly rooted in the word of God but have their origin from her (as an inspired prophetess)
    4) They must defend her by all means otherwise their core belief system that relies on her teachings will fall. In short there is no Adventism without EGW. This alone undermines their doctrine when checked with the word of God.

    • I think you are misleading the mases my dear. It’s better you keep quiet. Adventist does not worship Ellen g white as you worship marry no but his book are used for references. She was a prophetess and who was marry just a person. I short some pipo like you can be worshiping pipo like Paul or Peter becoz he was a discipl

    • How am i misleading the masses brother Benard? Please provide info when refuting, that way your argument will hav substance. First of all i never said that SDAs worship EGW. What i said is that she is a key figure in the Church (PROPHETESS) & the Church believes that she was inspired like all the biblical prophets . Her writings are not merely used for references but form much of the Adventist doctrine. Where do you think KEY but STRANGE Adventist doctrines come from? Some are so strange that you simply cant find them in the Bible but you find them only in her writings. Where do you think teachings like the Investigative Judgement (IJ) and the teaching of the Sanctuary Message come from? By the way im not Catholic.

    • Justin,sorry to comment late on your posting,BT to begin with, you have shown ignorance regarding the two issues that is I j and sanctuary messages, I would advise you to become a bible student, and you ll find answers regarding the two issues. Secondly ,I advise you to do church history on both churches,it ll help you to stop commenting on an un informed position. Keep up bro

    • Brother Jeremy i would appreciate if you could quote scriptures that support those doctrines so we see who is ignorant. By scripture i mean the Bible only and not anyone else’s writings. Let us enlighten one another bro.

  24. Interesting how emotional some people get when a little negative thing is said about their belief,even Christians are ready to insult.
    Is it any wonder that Muslims react the way they do to any perceived,’insult on the Prophet’.

  25. such topics ought to be between Christians and non Christians. if SDAs and Catholics both believe in Jesus, how is it that one wants to be more correct than the other? why is the Christian religion the only divided religion in the world? if through the teaching of Ellen White the SDA get closer to Christ, we all have to be supportive and if the motherly example of Mary makes the Catholic to need Jesus, let’s be happy. Christianity is suppose to be one but with different races, tribes and languages. an ignorant person is far better than a partially informed person because a partially informed is an alarmist.

  26. as Seventhday Adventist we believe in Jesus Christ as our savior period. EG White has this to say in her books, “my books are a lesser light pointing you to the greater light the BIBLE. she was used by the spirit of God to edify the church at her time and even messages for the end time. anyone in this world has an opinion about any topic we accept that. Therefore allow the this story to stand. Secondly what does it mean to believe in EGW and worshipping Mary? I think it would have made sense if you said we worship EGW then you have had a valid point to compare us to Worshipping Mary.

  27. New King James Version Romans 1:16-17 The Just Live by Faith For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith.” SDAs never believe in EGW or ask her to pray on their behalf but use her books to understand and learn more of God. EGW was a disciple as you are: given the same life as you are: she had to choose God as you are.

  28. you have totally mixed up the two,Mary was the mother to Jesus,whilst eg.white was a holy spirit inspired writer.I am not a 7th day adventist,but I have been reading her books avidly since the early 80’snthough they say,its blasphemy to compare other books to the bible,her books can be considered as next to the bible,my prsonal opinion.

  29. Kkkkkkk sober up first bfor bringing up issues,we do understand your boredom but an sure you have close friends u can joke around with other issues. if two people are right and a thousand are wrong, then they are wrong no two ways about it. it’s not a competition

  30. Ba Zambian observer,are you just tired observing dirty politics of UPND and the PF?????. Where are you upto?now you want to introduce politics in churches?.I know you are very tired of your media,just sell it and make lot of money rather than spoiling yourself with nonsense

  31. The Zambian Observer .You Guys are very shallow it’s more so the reason why you always post wrong things . Misleading the mases . Research is a paramount assept of well meaning intellectual discussion. Carry out a proper research with good methodology on any topic of interest before you show your foolishness.

  32. Psams 146:3, 118:8, 56:11. There’s a difference between believing in someone and believing what someone says or is, thats where the reporter never gave a second thought and we may forgive him for that. I believe mary is the mother of Jesus and i believe EGW is one of the prophetess of God but i believe and put my trust in God. SDAs and Catholics (members of the church not the church) are human bound to mistakes. They come from the same societies, that means they have more similarities than differences, for instance ignorance, illiteracy and many more, its possible that they could be some catholics that ignorantly put their trust in Mary and same with some ignorant SDAs who may put there trust in EGW, and deriving your conclusions from this may be more damaging especially to the reporter. We have preachers and writers in all churches, what’s wrong in believing what they preach or write if they are not in conflict with the bible? Unless you dont know, Bible writers were pure human beings who gave their lives to God and were inspired by the spirit to write what we now call the bible, God’s spirit is still full time at work in those who have given their lives to God, to preach, council and prophesying. not being factual is a common trend in Africa especially in zambia. 1Timothy 2:15 study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. God be with you all.

  33. Did you even go to school?News yapa ntemba,just because you have a laptop computer and access to the internet you call yourself a news editor.Do a proper research before you about this great woman,she was a just writer,she is not someone us SDA worship like you are claiming.

  34. Comment: Luke 1:48 Mary ‘song ; from now all the generation will call me Blessed,catholics we are in generation that honour Mary until the end of world and we are very proud of that.

  35. I think if you want to talk about plagiarism,if she indeed plagiarized anything…then she must have plagiarized the writtings of th Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints also known as Mormons.They more popular in the United States of America..Ellen G White once belonged to Church of Jesus of Latter Day Saints in its earlier days.She fell out with them after disagreements with the likes of Prophet Joseph Smith about I think something to do with a woman could not be a Prophet or something like that…she went on to start S.D.A so she could be a Prophet.Most of the writings and teachings are similar to those of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.The S D A are a replica of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.Most SDAs don’t know this and they would argue teribly.But the truth is that Ellen G White was a Mormon.One thing about the Mormons is that they really good at teachings and wrritings.

  36. BRETHEREN, REMEMBER THAT NO MATTER WHAT EVIDENCE WAS GIVEN TO THE JEWS THAT JESUS WAS INNOCENT, THE JEWS STILL CHOSE TO FIND HIM GUILTY. MY VIEW (BEAR WITH ME IF I AM WRONG) THIS GENTLEMAN IS NOT SEEKING AFTER KNOWLEDGE BUT SCANNDALISING MRS WHITE.
    CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING:
    1.IS THE BIBLE INSPIRED WITH THIS?
    GEN 32:30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
    JOHN 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared [him].
    JOHN 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
    1 JOHN 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time.
    DID MOSES SEE GOD?
    33:18 And he said, I beseech thee, show me thy glory.
    33:19 And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show mercy on whom I will show mercy.
    EXODUS 33:20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
    33:21 And the LORD said, Behold, [there is] a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:
    33:22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:
    33:23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.
    SO WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT THESE “SEEMING CONTRADICTIONS”?
    2. WHICH GOD DID MANOAH AND HIS WIFE SEE?
    JUDGES 13:21 But the angel of the LORD did no more appear to Manoah and to his wife. Then Manoah knew that he [was] an angel of the LORD.
    13:22 And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God.
    SO THEN WHICH GOD CLOSED THE DOOR FOR NOAH’S ARK?

    MY BRO. LEARN TO UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT OF A TEXT OTHERWISE YOU WILL BE GUILTY OF MALICE BEFORE GOD AND YOU WILL END UP MISLEADING OTHERS.

    I CORINTHIANS 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.
    THESE ARE SPIRITUAL THINGS YOU CANNOT ANALYSE THEM THE WAY YOU ANALYSE ACADEMICS.
    IF YOU ARE NOT SURE CONSULT THOSE THAT ARE MORE SPIRITUALLY MATURE THAN YOU MAY BE.
    YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW FAR THIS MALICE WILL GO.

  37. One group believes that, the woman can communicate with God on their behalf and have stuck images in their churches, whilst the others, don’t necessarily worship the woman, but trust in her writings as inspired by and directing to God. One as a medium or communicatory with God because she’s a mother to Jesus and the other as a trusted prophet of God whose writings they trust as I spired by God, but no images

  38. Ellen G White was jst prophetess of who wrote her books according to what she was shown in her visions,& the message in her speaks the same as the Bible. So what is wrong with believing in her books. Please Ba observer if u don’t hv news better be silent

    • EG White as others have said has explained what the Bible says. We have Pastors who every Sabbath or Sunday try to preach to explain what the Bible say. E G White is doing the same but in a written form.

      There is no contradiction what so ever between her and the Bible. Remember that there are some areas in the bible that call Jesus the grate angel of the Lord and if you read more from the same bible you will realise that it referred to Jesus himself.

      Now looking at the judgement day, the bible tells us that the grate day is coming when the Lord shall reward each and everyone according to what they have done. Paul the disciple of Christ as described by Peter, his writing are so difficult to understand more especially if you study to try justify your stand point for your gain. His teaching have been miss guided by many who profess to follow Christ to their own advantage. EG White’s work is to help us understand such writings.

      Look at the book of revelation, it’s so difficult to understand, and EG White’ writing takes us step by step to explain it using the whole bible to connect all events that are taking place in Revelation. To conclude I would just want to know or for someone to tell me how God Will judge the world, what will guide him to render me unholy, why would he say to those that used his name to heal and move mountains ” never new you”

  39. Please Zambian observers stick to your human politics leave the church and its work alone. No one who can claim that you don’t need the church. The church is the body of Christ, its not any human being either Ellen white or Mary. Play your politics with your fellow politians and leave the church alone. Stop pretending, the fact that your a human being I can remind you here that you need the church in your life…….

  40. Let is all understand the fact that Marry and white where just human instruments which God used to fullfil His purpose. He used a human agent Mary to raise the savior, and He used white to speak to His people of the present time. They are just vessels which the God of the universe decided to use, after theirwork was done, God allowed them to rest in the grave with their forefathers. Let us all understand that God is a spirit who can not die. And if someone can die and be barried for over 100year, then her divinity attracts questions. Nowonder why the bible tells us not to trust a man whose breath is in his nostrils. Mary and white have have rested in the grave, this disqualifies them to be gods, and worshiping any other thing apart from Jehova Himself becomes blasphemy. As Seventh Day Adventists, we dont worship White As it is a sin, instead we uphold her teaching as a prophetes whom God used to speak to the people in our genaration. At every dispernsation of time, God used different people ti deliver his massage, (meat in due season), He used Noah, Elijah, Moses, and finally White, we dont worship Noah or Elijah because they where Gods messengers, but we hold fast to their teachings so as White. Maybe our brothers from catholic can tel us why they worship a creature .

  41. kip yo Question back to yourself bcoz u Alred knw Tha Answ
    Mary is tha mother of Jesus Christ and that is tha Only Role Mary played in in prophecy moreover this does not let us in harmony to start worshipping Mary
    Back to Ellen G white She Greatest prophetes rison being that she was Outshown all these visions Including tha vision of tha Great Controversy how Satan fell down from Heaven ,
    these prophets like John tha Revelator have only written part of its fall So if whre to Ask u how whre u going to understand abt tha whole story if these books of prophecy written by tha same WOMAN ELLEN G WHITE .and this is whre tha world is foolish following what someone will tell them instead they Read their on way
    So POINT OF CLARIFFICATION NOBODY IN SDA WORSHIPS ELE
    LEN G WHITE
    Mrs White is jst a messenger like any Other prophets sent by God

    NO WAY IN THA BIBLE WHRE ITS WRITTEN TO SAY WORSHIP MRS ELLEN G WHITE DONT HABOUR HATRED LIKE THA SAME WITH MARRY IF CATHRIC WORSHIP MARY THEY AR WRONG I REPEAT WRONG !!!!!!!
    NO HUMAN BEING SHULD BE WORSHIPED ONLY THA MIGHTY GOD THE OMNIPTENT GOD OF ISREAL

    • Let’s look at how Jesus related to his mother. Do we see any special treatment given to her by God(Jesus) himself, No!! We hear in the Bible that there are people who were taken to heaven like Enoch, Elijah, Moses etc, there is no mention of Marry the Saint being taken up to heaven. There are some churches that pray and use Marry as an intercession, how would she she do that when she is dead.

      The issue is that, the Devil is perusing his “thou shalt not surely die” statement that he gave to Adam and Eve. Using Marry to get to God is Idolising and the Law of God is against that. Ellen is not worshiped vs Marry being the intercession though dead. We need to open your eyes and see what the Devil is doing to draw us to him by ‘re introducing Marry to us as the holly mother. Ellen White will teach you the position we should take pertaining to the dead. It’s there in her Books. I would call her the last prophet who has opened the book that it’s contents were sealed(Daniel and Revelation)

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